tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5610810146856199913.post1975489229428839486..comments2024-03-23T05:13:18.984-07:00Comments on Finding a Different Path: IN THEORY...Jesshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15868505568965284742noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5610810146856199913.post-29045876495322115322021-03-20T19:46:59.209-07:002021-03-20T19:46:59.209-07:00Laughing at Lori's first para. That's cert...Laughing at Lori's first para. That's certainly what my mother wanted me to think too!Malihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03928262526502319303noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5610810146856199913.post-59322391768948332862021-03-20T12:48:02.353-07:002021-03-20T12:48:02.353-07:00I'm still laughing at "SPERM IS MAGIC AND...I'm still laughing at "SPERM IS MAGIC AND CAN GET YOU PREGNANT FROM ANYWHERE!" Because that's what I thought from my school experiences!<br /><br />It's great that your students have you as a deeper thinker. Much of the way through school, it goes like this? Have a problem? Find a solution. Problem solved.<br /><br />But real life, longer life, shows it doesn't always go like that in a straight line. Sometimes it doesn't even go at all.<br /><br />Love The Giver. Time for me to reread. So much good stuff for discussion!Lori Lavender Luzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15394441222262940632noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5610810146856199913.post-27649598990585232682021-03-20T05:18:18.110-07:002021-03-20T05:18:18.110-07:00I like it too. I was in college when it came out, ...I like it too. I was in college when it came out, but I've been teaching it since 2012. So many great questions about ethics, and what makes a perfect society, and can you eliminate pain without making life shallow, and how much control is too much. It does blow my mind that people choose to only see the "success" stories of IVF. I am not the only one in my building who came out of the experience babyless. And definitely not as small a percentage of people in general as you would think from the media's treatment of IVF. I cringe every time they say "the embryo is implanted in the uterus" instead of "transferred." Aaaa. Jesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15868505568965284742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5610810146856199913.post-80123441601911014772021-03-20T05:10:54.022-07:002021-03-20T05:10:54.022-07:00Thank you! They do talk about it a bit in Health c...Thank you! They do talk about it a bit in Health class in 8th grade, but it's tricky. I think the message in middle and high school tends to be "SPERM IS MAGIC AND CAN GET YOU PREGNANT FROM ANYWHERE!" and not as much "some of you will have tons of sex in your life and NEVER have a baby as a result, you'll need to employ technology and EVEN THEN shine of you won't have babies." I think the magic sperm are a bit of a deterrent legend? But I think it's important to acknowledge that there are many ways to build a family and sometimes those ways don't work out; we haven't yet figured out a way to guarantee a baby for those who want one."<br /><br />Tricky indeed.Jesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15868505568965284742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5610810146856199913.post-77177465926154371452021-03-20T05:05:41.934-07:002021-03-20T05:05:41.934-07:00Right? I second your GAAHHHH. I feel like this is ...Right? I second your GAAHHHH. I feel like this is a mission of mine, to give a healthy dose of reality. I am like a "sometimes you don't get what you want in life, not matter how hard you try, but you can move forward from this and make a new plan" evangelist. Jesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15868505568965284742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5610810146856199913.post-48630264396109923172021-03-20T05:02:44.179-07:002021-03-20T05:02:44.179-07:00Thanks, it's a great book for reflection and i...Thanks, it's a great book for reflection and inference, but it can get sticky! The funny thing is, my coteacher has had her share of things not work out. She also does not have children, and didn't find her person until her forties. I think there's a sense of misguided optimism that we can only put forward a world of possibility, a sorry of "the world is your oyster, anything is possible!" And I'm more "shit won't always work out, but you can be okay. Everyone doesn't get everything." Jesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15868505568965284742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5610810146856199913.post-85804984590991032462021-03-20T04:55:43.149-07:002021-03-20T04:55:43.149-07:00Thank you! I love these discussions. Sadly, wet al...Thank you! I love these discussions. Sadly, wet also have such limited time with the students that I didn't want to keep going down the path as the next question was "why would they get rid of sex in this society? What problems are caused by sex in our society?" But you're right, I could have said the 70%. I did talk to her Friday. I don't have much chance to debrief right after classes as both of my sections with her are directly followed by a class I teach, sometimes at the other end of the building so I have to scurry. I think her perspective can't from a sort of optimism but also a feeling that she doesn't want to throw unpleasant truths at the kids. Even though many of them are fully aware of unpleasant truths in our society. Jesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15868505568965284742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5610810146856199913.post-66005064557552312752021-03-19T12:04:59.091-07:002021-03-19T12:04:59.091-07:00I like The Giver, although I only read it for the ...I like The Giver, although I only read it for the first time a few years ago (I don't think it had been published yet when I was in school). It's surprising how many adults don't realize that IVF is not a guarantee.Shttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08872513410814268769noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5610810146856199913.post-90238797170279100452021-03-18T06:34:58.751-07:002021-03-18T06:34:58.751-07:00Good for you! Both for being enthusiastic about aw...Good for you! Both for being enthusiastic about awkward conversations and working a reality check in about ART. It’s definitely not the most relevant conversation for young teens but fertility and health are things we should get used to discussing. Especially for women it’s such a complicated topic. torthúilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07738803052167620020noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5610810146856199913.post-32730355053895972582021-03-17T09:34:23.898-07:002021-03-17T09:34:23.898-07:00Why does the myth persist that everyone who wants ...Why does the myth persist that everyone who wants a baby gets to have one?? It is SO ANNOYING!! And factually inaccurate. Gahhh.Infertile Phoenixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11033358612204465661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5610810146856199913.post-62817110031984093492021-03-17T07:59:58.098-07:002021-03-17T07:59:58.098-07:00Wow. I've never heard of this book, but my hat...Wow. I've never heard of this book, but my hat is off to you as you teach it! <br /><br />As for your co-teacher, sounds like she's living in her own world of no pain/sadness/bad news: a world where everything works out the way people want it to if they just do the right things. (Barf.) Perhaps it's time for her to expose herself to the reality that bad things keep happening even when since or kindness or desire wants them not to. NotMyLinesYethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13341656344049375264noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5610810146856199913.post-84053079028950863162021-03-16T20:42:11.578-07:002021-03-16T20:42:11.578-07:00Well, I don't know this book, but I wish I'...Well, I don't know this book, but I wish I'd had you as a teacher when I was a kid! I hope your co-teacher had a think about what she said. Your response was perfect and not at all aggressive (though maybe you're referring to the steam that was coming out your ears at the time?), and I think it would have been perfectly fine to say it doesn't work 70% of the time. All you were doing was ensuring your students were hearing accurate information. I'm glad they have an informed teacher.<br /><br />Question: Did you have a conversation with your co-teacher about her comment afterwards?Malihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03928262526502319303noreply@blogger.com